Problem with b53 or with my rope

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127932 by chrisoneal
Problem with b53 or with my rope was created by chrisoneal
I Have no idea what kinda rope it is but i got it from a friend that climbs tree's So it's a arborist rope. When i tie the b53 and put weight on it. It just slips I have it tight and i have the stopper knot on the end of it. I cant get it to hold. Maybe iim not tiying the not right or what. But i ordered the video from petter Jennkins. So iv tied that knot a coupld time from watching the video. Im also thinking about getting a new rope what do u guys think about this one for the price. And does it hold knots good.

http://www.wesspur.com/rope/forestry-pro.html

I dont have alot of money right now to get a good rope. I need it by this weekend and only have a few bucks to my name right now. Also do you guys use those things that go over the branches that protect the rope. If so were can i get them and am i able to make a homemade one . Well if you guys could get back with me fast that would be nice. Thanks chris.

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127933 by moss
Replied by moss on topic Problem with b53 or with my rope
I'm guessing that your friend gave you a static rope that's meant for use with ascenders (SRT), won't hold a Blake's.

The Forestry Pro rope will hold a Blake's just fine.

Here's an animation that you can step through, it's a b42 but otherwise will do the trick:
Blake's knot animation

Yup, it's a good idea for the tree (and the life of your rope) to use a cambium saver. You can make one but it's not easy to find the right conduit or ferrules for the ends, has to be special ordered usually. The stuff you'll find at your local electrical supplier isn't flexible enough. Try buying the Dan House Sleeve from New Tribe, they're inexpensive, easy to put over a branch and well worth it.
-moss

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127934 by Electrojake
Replied by Electrojake on topic Problem with b53 or with my rope

Originally posted by chrisoneal
. . .But i ordered the video from petter Jennkins. So iv tied that knot a coupld time from watching the video. . .
Thanks chris.

Interesting point. . .
That new video from Peter Jenkins is literally a life-saver to new climbers. A large number of us pre-Jenkins-video climbers started out with little more than a copy of Jepson’s book and a prayer. The Tree Climbing Basics video has cut the learning curve way down, and most certainly will increase the new climber survival rate, (at least until you can get some hands-on training).

As for using a tree-saver to protect your rope, I consider it a must-have item. Take another look at the Tree Climbing Basics video. Everything Jenkins does and uses is what you’ll need. He didn’t add any “fluff “, just the necessary basics to get you into the canopy safely.

As for being broke (fiscally challenged). . .
Part of the adventure of Recreational Tree Climbing is figuring out how to afford all the neat stuff that is available for our sport. :D
Click on the following link and then do a search on part number: 30535
www.wtsherrill.com

Seems like you’re in a hurry?
Good luck with your up-coming climbing mission.
Be sure to report back here at TCI and let us know how it all works out.

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127935 by chrisoneal
Replied by chrisoneal on topic Problem with b53 or with my rope
Thanks for the fast reply guys. I will take a look at that saver. Im going to defently going to get a new rope and hopfully by this weekend. Well thanks chris.

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127943 by nickfromwi
Replied by nickfromwi on topic Problem with b53 or with my rope
Why is it that you need the stuff so soon? What's the rush? I have a feeling this is more than just a recreational pursuit that you're involved in. Otherwise it'd make very much sense to hold off a week until you have $10-$20 more to get a really good rope, rather than one that'll merely do.

Best of luck. We'll help you out along the way.

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127945 by treeman
Replied by treeman on topic Setting the Blakes hitch
Make sure you pull UP in the tail to set the Blakes hitch, not down. If you pull down, you loosen the knot.

What IS the hurry anyway? If you have snagged a tree job and this is your first time climbing you are in dangerous territory. New climbers sometimes get lured into premature action with the lure of money. Tree work is much different from ground work, like mowing the lawn. One error can cause an injury or death. Be careful and buy good gear. Used rope is always a risk. Certainly do not lend your rope out to others.

Waving from a treetop,
Peter Treeman Jenkins

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127951 by oldtimer
Replied by oldtimer on topic Alternative Suggestion
Hello Chris,
Since you are a new climber and do not know all the tricks of the trade. I suggest a lot of caution with your rope capacity and the knots usage. But if you want to try an alternative, use a split tail system. ( using another rope of a lighter diameter than the climbing line to tie the Blake hitch. ) If you need directions on this system look in the net for "Blake Hitch" and see what you can do.

It took me a few trials and re-reading of the Jeff Jepson manual before I was actually able to climb on the tree safely and securely. I would not consider doing any WORK like cutting stuff before you have a lot more experience under your belt about climbing and about rigging stuff. It is difficult and it takes time to learn under proper supervision. The little bit of money you may make this weekend will not be enough to pay your medical bills if you get injured or worse permanently incapacitated.
Trees are heavy things that can kill you!

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127954 by oldtimer
Replied by oldtimer on topic A Reason for Being Careful
A tree trimmer who fell 50 feet to his death is the latest casualty linked to last week's storms in the St. Louis area.

Robert Graham, 69, of Hannibal, Mo., fell Wednesday while cutting limbs from a storm-ravaged tree in University City. It brings to 10 the number of deaths from the storms, heat and power outages.

Graham had been hired to trim a tree in the 6300 block of McPherson Avenue. He was a self-employed contractor who did business as AAA Professional Home Services.Advertisement
Investigators said Graham put a 60-foot ladder against a tree, climbed about 40 feet up and ascended another 10 or so feet by climbing in a tree-cutter's harness.

As he stood in the fork of the tree, Graham used a chain saw to cut a large limb. As the limb fell, it hit the ladder and he lost his balance and fell to the ground, authorities said. He died at the scene.

Graham is survived by his wife, Mary Ann, three sons, a daughter and 10 grandchildren. Mary Ann Graham had served for 30 years as director of the Red Cross in Marion County.

Robert Graham had been focusing on roofing instead of tree-trimming in recent years, and relatives thought he had gotten out of the tree-trimming business.

"But he knew the need was so great because of the storms," said his daughter, Amy Laxton of Lee's Summit, Mo. "With him being 69, we didn't think he'd be up in a tree. But he was a very hard worker, and he did his own thing anyway."

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127962 by chrisoneal
Replied by chrisoneal on topic Problem with b53 or with my rope
Well yes i do need this rope for cutting tree's. I went a head and got true blue. I climbed a couple times out back with it on my tree's It seems to be a very good and sturdy rope.I got hired on my uncles tree company. And he has been showing me what to do and what not to do. He has had years experince. So i think i will be ok listening to him on what to do. But anyway how do you guys like true blue. And my buddy picked up a rope called arbor plex have you guys ever used that lne and how do you like it.

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18 years 3 months ago - 18 years 3 months ago #127970 by oldtimer
Replied by oldtimer on topic Chris Starting a new Job
Hello Chris
Glad you bought the new rope and are getting to learn from your uncle. Hope he is a good safe teacher. A good source of info for "Professional Arborists" is the treebuzz.com
Cutting and caring for trees is what they do for living and I have learned a bunch just by reading their posts. It is not the same as asking a class but better than the alternatives. I have have used Arbor plex rope and some others and that one is to start with.

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